TSP Rollover to an IRA Account—Should I do it or Not?

This is a question that I received the other day from someone who has a lot on his plate.  He’s getting his financial life in order and was trying to figure out whether a TSP rollover was the right thing.  While everyone has different perspectives and situations, there is one constant:

Any financial decision you make should be consistent with a financial plan that reflects your values and goals.

This article will discuss the pros and cons of rolling your TSP account into an IRA.  However, any decision you make should be consistent with the long-term plan or strategy you have in place.

TSP Rollover Reasons For:

There are pros to doing a TSP rollover.  Some of those benefits are listed in more detail below.

Account aggregation:  As people depart the military, they may find themselves trying to get their financial house in order.  Part of that process includes account consolidation.  If you’ve already been contributing to an IRA AND you’re departing the military, it might be convenient to transfer your TSP account into that IRA.

Investment choices:  Although you could argue that TSP has plenty of diversification for any investor, there are several situations in which TSP is not the right savings vehicle.  Two specific examples come to mind.

First, there are people who want to have a self-directed IRA to manage real estate or a closely-held business.  Due to the tax treatment of leveraged investments inside retirement accounts, both of these ventures would receive maximum benefit from a consolidation of retirement assets.  Since TSP doesn’t allow for self-directed investments, an IRA is the only other logical investment vehicle.

Second, there are people who might benefit from purchasing a qualified longevity annuity contract (QLAC).  QLACs are for people who are approaching the age for required minimum distributions (RMDs), but do not need the income.  The benefit of a QLAC is that it allows the account owner to defer RMDs until a later date.  While this article won’t discuss specifics, a QLAC can be an effective tax-planning tool and a long-term care planning tool.  While you can purchase a QLAC in an IRA, you cannot do so from TSP.

TSP Rollover: Reasons Against

There are also some cons with rolling TSP into an IRA.  Let’s look into those as well.

Costs:  There’s just no getting around this.  Although Vanguard is the lowest-cost IRA provider, it still costs more than TSP.  How much more?  Let’s look at this hypothetical chart of 20-year returns.

This chart used the following numbers:

  • Stock market returns. Literally, numbers I pulled out of my head.  You can do this yourself with any set of numbers.  The focus should be on the comparison between TSP, Vanguard, and the industry average.
  • TSP: TSP’s expense ratios equal 2.9 basis points, or .029%.
  • Vanguard: Vanguard’s webpage cites that their average ETF fees are .12%, or 12 basis points.
  • Industry average: 53 basis points, or .53%, also according to Vanguard.

The cost difference between TSP & the industry average might make you think twice before doing a TSP rollover to an IRA

This chart indicates three things:

  • Not even TSP is an exact proxy for market returns. You can see that the 2.9 basis point annual fees take their toll over time.
  • However, TSP is closer to the pure stock market return than Vanguard.
  • Both TSP and Vanguard are pretty close to the pure market return. However, many people who aren’t fee-conscious might see their returns eroded in the long-term.

Account aggregation:  Huh?  Wasn’t this a positive to moving your money into an IRA?  However, you can just as easily consolidate your IRA and other retirement plans under TSP.  This is a great idea for families who have multiple IRAs or 401(k) plans, but who see TSP as a cornerstone of their financial future.  You can find more information on rolling accounts into TSP on the TSP website.

Tax planning:  This is a tough one, so try to follow me here.

For those who have significant amounts of combat-zone deferrals, you’re probably aware that the eventual distribution from those deferrals are tax-exempt, even though the earnings on those contributions are not.  This information is easily produced by TSP, and you can look on your account statements to know exactly where you stand.

When you transfer this account to an IRA, most likely, your IRA custodian will have NO idea how to segregate your tax-free and taxable contributions.  Combat zone contributions are the only type of contributions that are tax free.  TSP is the only retirement plan that accounts for combat zone contributions.  Other plans are primarily focused on pre-tax and after-tax contributions, not tax-free.

What this means is that when you shift your TSP to an IRA account, your IRA custodian will likely treat your account in the following manner:

  • Traditional accounts will be considered pre-tax
  • Roth accounts will be considered after-tax

Your eventual distributions will have required withholdings by the IRA custodian.  This means that your tax-free distribution MAY have tax withholdings, even though they’re tax-free.  You can eventually claw back the withheld money when you file your tax return.

However, the burden of proof is on you to clearly identify that the transferred money originally came from contributions that you made when you were in a combat zone.  This means you’ll have to maintain records that clearly indicate:

If you’re not familiar with IRS Notice 2014-54, it’s a doozy.  In essence, it means that when you withdraw from a retirement account plan (such as a 401(k) or TSP), and you have both pre-tax and after-tax (or tax-free) contributions, then you MUST make your withdrawals in proportional amounts.

For example, let’s say you have $100,000 in TSP ($80,000 in traditional and $20,000 in Roth).  When withdrawing from this account (or rolling over), you must withdraw equally from each account.  If you’re rolling over the entire balance, there’s no problem.  However, let’s say you’re only drawing out $20,000.  You cannot just cherry-pick $20,000 in Roth just to avoid paying taxes.

The IRS mandates that your $20,000 must be in equal proportions from each account.  In this case, you would take 80% from the traditional & 20% from the Roth account, or $16,000 and $4,000, respectively.  (BTW, TSP accounts for this and will distribute proceeds from your accounts in this manner).

Tired yet?  Just wait until you try to manage this on your own, without any assistance from TSP (who is no longer managing your account).  You might spend a lot of money to hire an accountant, enrolled agent, or fee-only financial planner to help you wade through this correctly, or even more time & frustration (and possibly money if done incorrectly) doing it on your own.  This might be a situation where you decide to leave your money in TSP. 

Note:  We haven’t yet gotten to the point where there are a lot of TSP accountholders who are managing distributions of combat zone contributions.  However, when we do, it will be quickly apparent that this will be a big deal for those people who rolled their TSP over into IRA accounts.  Perhaps the bigger IRA custodians will incorporate procedures to amend this gap.  However, since TSP rollovers count for such a small portion of the overall IRA rollover market ($443 billion for TSP vs. $4.8 trillion for 401(k)s), I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Conclusion:  TSP Rollover Timing

Whether or not you decide to do a TSP rollover into an IRA depends completely upon your circumstances.  However, it’s important that you not make this decision too quickly.  The last thing that you want to do is jump from the frying pan into the fire.  Instead, the decision to roll your TSP into an IRA should be part of a methodical, long-term financial plan that is consistent with your values and financial goals.






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About the author

Forrest Baumhover

Forrest Baumhover joined Lawrence Financial Planning in 2018 after a rewarding 24-year Navy career. He holds a B.S. in English from the United States Naval Academy and an M.B.A from Old Dominion University. Forrest has been a CFP® professional since 2015. He is also enrolled before the IRS as a tax practitioner.

As a veteran and a financial planner, Forrest understands the difficulties of being financially prepared for the unexpected. His personal experience in helping sailors resolve their own financial challenges inspired him to become a financial planner.

Forrest has been quoted in USA Today, Forbes.com, Christian Science Monitor, Business Insider, and other industry publications.

Originally a native of Dade City, Florida, Forrest has lived in Tampa since 2014. In his spare time, he volunteers as a transportation specialist, transporting his three children from activity to activity.

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